Archontophoenix cunninghamiana (Bangalow palm , king palm , Illawara palm , piccabben , piccabeen) is an Australian palm. If that is the case I wonder why they are not as common as other palms in stores i.e. The Alex has a larger greener crownshaft and without counting,Seems to have slightly more pinnae per frond. Stub This article has been rated as Stub-Class on the project's quality scale. Well, I have seen King palms almost half the size of mine in bloom in town. But I think no matter how close I came to the required light for blooming..it wasn't the minimum. Growth rates? Archontophoenix alexandrae. The flowers of A. alexandrae are greenish-white to cream-colored, while those of A. cunninghamiana are pink to lavender. Especially those that would grow medium to fast, and are quite wind resistant. I've grown kings in the ground here in Jax for a few years. Guess 5 miles is enough though. (the others are Pleranda elegantissima). They are NOT common here. The A.cunninghamiana var illwarra is not been proven to be anymore cold hardy than A.cunninhamiana.The word "king palm " has been given to cunninghamiana in the USA but is not the name given to it in its natural environment where it is Piccabeen or Bangalow Palm. David is also conservative in his zone statement..in the background he has a perfect Coconut palm. Can't believe SFO has tropical palm trees growing at 38 degrees parallel. Now,over the roof,it is all day sun. This palm makes a stately accent within any landscape. You still have to search to find them. Preferred habitat. They probably are the most northern coconut and royal. tagfcps are you in Jacksonville, FL? They were planted this month but while they were still potted, they took several 30 degree mornings without damage (planted in a south facing area). The major difference would be the lack of heat relative to the rest of the state. tagfcps that's amazing you have a couple 12 footers. Outdoors with some protection from wind. I live about five miles from the coast and the lowest temp i've seen so far is 29. If you've seen those purple Oxalis for sale that might offer scale..but its fat. Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. MORE Palms: King Alexander STATS. Young Archontophoenix trees will not tolerate frost, but adult plants may stand 28 F (-2 C) (Brenzel 1995). Queens are growing in Tallahassee. : Moderate Typical Height: 40' OA. i think black/white - has a zebra look that works. williamr you make some great points. Archontophoenix cunninghamiana on left. The blurb on Daves Garden states that the Cunninghamiana grows like a weed and also reproduces like one. Archontophoenix cunninghamiana (formerly Seaforthia elegans) - King Palm King Palms have a showy canopy of bright green, leathery fronds and are a popular choice for tropical gardens, pool areas and lining neighborhood streets. The Alexander Palm (A. alexandrae) from northern Queensland is found commonly in our region and is gradually dominating the Piccabeen Palm habitat. tagfcps your right it does get much colder. Also don't Kings have a low salt tolerance? DESCRIPTION. Where along Florida's east coast does zone 10 really end? Archontophoenix alexandrae; Archontophoenix cunninghamiana; Archontophoenix maxima; Archontophoenix myolensis; Archontophoenix purpurea; Archontophoenix tuckeri; Here are some informations collected on the palms of this genus: Species of the genus Archontophoenix all have some common features. "Growing along the Steve Irwin way up from where I live. Now,they get it nearly sunup to sundown. These are in natural habitat areas of Beerwah State Forest." The Zebra trunks must have been in rain. Grows well in almost frost-free areas in northern New Zealand. & Drude - Alexandra palm, king palm; Archontophoenix cunninghamiana H.Wendl. Rarely growing to more than 3m, this smoothstemmed, medium-sized palm is extremely decorative and ideal for swimming pool areas and small gardens. It does, however, require a nice, moist soil in order to thrive – so water frequently, especially through summer. Looks best if grown in groups and in sheltered gullies. A. alexandrae grows best in partial shade when young and full sun once the crown reaches full height (Turner and Wasson 1997). People in the bay area love King palms,most here not knowing they will grow here even as they are in awe over their exotic looks. I thought the Illawara's could take a couple degrees lower than all Kings? The lowest I've seen in four years is 26, so I'm a cold 9b. Archontophoenix alexandrae is a tall and slender palm more commonly known as the Alexander Palm. They've spent there time in the shade of my home with full sun by afternoon then. Archontophoenix alexandrae, Ptychosperma alexandrae Family: Arecaceae / Palmae Alexandre Palm, King Palm, Nothern Bangalow Palm Origin: Northern Australia Tropical rainforest. Thanks for the info, it's a little drive from OP but I might scope out that HD. The cunninghamiana is Piccabeen palm. I have two 12 footers with about 4' of trunk, give or take, amd two smaller seedlings in the ground. I grow both of these palms and I can tell you they are almost exactly the same when it comes to cold hardiness. & Drude, Loroma cunninghamiana (H. Solitary, tall to c.20m. Also has a slightly more upright habit of the leaves (less droopy) and less likely to turn horizontally than A cunninghamiana. I think common palms does not mean they are ugly. The most noticeable difference between these palms is that A. cunninghamiana has lavender flowers where all other Archontophoenix species have white/cream colored flowers. The genus Archontophoenix has 6 species, 3 of which are considered rare. It gets much colder west of here. Leaves are green on both upper and lower surfaces. We have a few days in the 30s per year but most days are 75+ in the day and 49+ at night. The leaves, which have paler stalks, are bright green above and below, although there can also be brown scales underneath. Jump to: navigation, search. Beautiful photos! My only suggestion so far is to lower your gallery to about 20cm above the back of the sofa -- you can see below if you like the idea. They grow out of it very quickly in the Spring though. Stems: Solitary, slender, gray, to 10 m tall and up to 20 cm in diameter, slightly swollen at the base, with ridged, "stair-step" rings of leaf scars. Given a shady spot, they grow slim and elegant, holding a crown of dark green leaves above a green crownshaft. A. alexandrae is a palm native to tropical Australia and is not as cold hardy as A. cunninghamiana. Austraalia emakeel, kuninglik peopesus (archontophoenix cunninghamiana või archontophoenix alexandrae) levib laia, roheliselt rohelise võluv kuppel. Lots of differences: A alexandrae has a stepped trunk while cunninghamiana trunks are relatively smooth (still ringed, but not in 3-D really); A alexandrae palms are much more cold sensitive, handling temps into the high 20s barely in So Cal, while A cunninghamianas do OK down to the mid 20s, though some burn may occur on both depending upon wind or lack thereof- this is why A alexandrae palms are relatively rare in California (struggle to survive in most areas) but extremely common in tropical climates, while the opposite seems to be the case with A cunninhamiana- VERY common in California (do great in most areas of So California) but hardly seen in some place like Hawaii; A alexandrae leaves have whitish coloration on the underside- A cunninghamianas tend to be green on both surfaces; A alexandrae palm leaves arch or a flat in appearance, while A cunninghamianas often tilt/twist 90 degrees so that leaves are perpendicular to the ground (this is not 100%); A alexandrae flowers are white while cunninghamiana flowers are lavender. Hey david you say you've grown king from seed how long did it take your seeds to germinate ? I realy think the cold hardiness of illawaras are badly overblown. Maybe I should have said leaflets not pinnae. The Jax coast is comparable to the rest of the East coast of florida, but outside the coast, there are less heating days. majesties and chinese fans. Welcome to the PACSOA Palms and Cycads wiki ! They prefer full sun but also tolerate partial shade. Farther north,haven't seen them THAT white. Sunshine Coast, Hinterland, Queensland, Australia. Archontophoenix alexandrae is naturally found in Australia growing on the northern east coast of Queensland from the tropic of Capricorn to Cape York growing along water courses in rainforest or lowland swamps on the coast and inland from sea level to an altitude of 600 m (1,968 ft). Davids climate might account for his experiences. My kings are the offspring of another member's mature king. Mature plants may take brief periods of 28F. I have heard the word king palm for alexandrae also so I guess that it is also correct to call it that.I have grown both of these from seeds and they are almost the same in how fast they grow also.They both can take temps in the 20s probably mid to a little higher depending on the palm and occasionally someone will have one that will take lower 20s but not often.They can take some frost but not much. I think I'm too liberal with the fertilizer and water. But,some very well cared for,fast growing Kings seem to have a near identical crownshaft and light colored trunk. I've seen photos of those palms in Los Angeles with their near sun bleached white trunks. Several of us have kings and many other zone pushers in the ground. 200mm - $17.00 300mm - $58.00 45lt - $150.00 +GST Not until you reach tropical zone 11 Cabo San Lucas at the southern tip of Baja California do they grow that easily.Just to help explain the difference in Alex palm growing on the west coast and Florida or Texas. 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